New Survey is being spread to see if Religion should be incorporated into medicine!

Short Answer: No. Long Answer… HELL NO! This is absurd. This woman (Read about her here) thinks..

Before the advent of modern medicine, ancient healing and medical care were inexorably connected with religion and superstition and there was no clear distinction between priests or sorcerers and physicians for many millennia.1-4 The shift to a modern approach to medical care which combines clinical observation, experimentation, and experienced based on reason and systematic science in the fifth century originated with the father of modern medicine, Hippocrates.4,5 He emphasized the importance of careful observation of the symptoms and signs of disease and approached ailments with a rational, nonsuperstitious perspective.6-9 However, Hippocrates did not completely exclude spiritual considerations from medical care

So, just because doctors once believed in prayer, this hack thinks it’s ok to STILL incorporate it into modern medicine… in spite of the evidence that it doesn’t work?!?! WOW… show her atheists care about this subject too and don’t want a doctor to pray for us. TAKE THE SURVEY HERE

It’s been studied numerous times that prayer doesn’t actually lead to more healing. Here’s a great example! Most participants in studies where they knew they were being prayed for actually did worse in their own recovery because they were waiting on divine intervention to heal them instead of being active in their own healing process. This kind of “holistic” nonsense is absurd. I don’t mean to bash all holistic approaches. If I can be cured of something with herbs and massages over chemicals and injections… I’m all for it. But, in light of the overwhelming evidence that prayer has ZERO healing effect, the talk about it being incorporated into medicine needs to stop.

I recently had a friend who went to see a doctor after getting into a bad car accident. He had to have back surgery and was going in for a follow-up visit to get more pain pills to help with the constant agony of just moving around his home. Amazingly, because his chart listed him as an “atheist”, the doctor proceeded to give his own personal testimony to my friend for 15 minutes. He asked, “Well, I guess this atheism thing isn’t working out to well for you, huh?” This was meant to imply that the reason my friend was in a wreck in the first place is because GOD wasn’t watching out for him. The doctor was basically prescribing religion as a better recovery method than pain pills.

My friend sat there and listened and waited for the Doc to finish (so he could get his damn pills). Should he be fired? I think so. But, the clinic did nothing because they say on their website that they are “faith-based”. This kind of nonsense has no place in modern medicine. And, unfortunately, surveys like the one listed above will not help the cause. Watch out for these subtle attacks by the church on reason and science. They know how to fight… and won’t stop until they run our government, our schools, and our healthcare system.

  • Nate Diamond

    How about this:

    Let Prayer into medicine, but only after approved FDA trials. Once the trials are done, and the evidence released, then the FDA can decide whether or not to accept it as "medicine".

  • Ed

    What Nate said is actually a good idea. There are more than a few people with strong enough willpower to heal themselves as long as they believe it can happen. Why not try to run actual 'prayer' tests on the idea instead of just dismissing it outright?

  • Rooster Cogburn

    Ed, did you even read the link post in the article? Here it is again in case you need it:….

    Also, did anyone proof read this before publishing? I'd like to think most people know the difference between "affect" and "effect", especially writers, but apparently not :( . Also, I think you a word in there. example: "This kind “holistic” nonsense is absurd."

  • Adam

    Sorry, Rooster… I did post that in a hurry and missed the two typos. We try to be careful. I fixed it. Thanks for the head-up.

  • Adam

    There are plenty of studies I can post for all of you that show prayer has been tested numerous times and shown a negative or neutral effect. It is not accepted in medical science currently for that reason… except for Christian Doctors.

  • Mac

    I couldn't take that survey. Too many of the questions were ambiguous and poorly defined and there were too many opportunities for cherry-picking the answers.

    I think it may be just the teeniest tish slanted.

  • Mac

    …that last sentence was sarcasm, by the way. :-)

  • Adam

    Yeah, my wife uses survey monkey too for her research in psychology… she laughed when she read this bullshit. I think she used the words "stupid bitch" when refering to the author.

  • Ken

    The placebo effect is strong, valuable, and usually underrated or ridiculed. Nevertheless, I think research is necessary into what sorts of beliefs promote a strong placebo effect without unwanted side effects such as prejudice towards, or persecution of, either nonbelievers or believers of different things.

    Many of us have written off faith in doctors as equally as untenable as faith in an intercessory God. So what do we do to gain the maximum benefit from the placebo effect?

    It's like Thomas Edison – we've proved that a couple of materials don't make good light bulb filaments, but that doesn't mean we can't make working light bulbs.

  • gwen

    'Christian Scientists' and cults of that ilk routinely shun 'traditional medicine' for prayer. And when their children die of simple medical neglect of easily treatable conditions,as they invariably do, the parents are charged with murder or manslaughter. Some of these children have died horrendously protracted and painful deaths. It is funny that these people go to dentists and ophthalmologists. Apparently, prayers don't cure dental caries or near-sightedness.