“Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?” – a 15 year old atheist in a Christian School speaks out!

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Bio: Cassie Huye is a fifteen year old girl living in Baton Rouge, Louisiana with her parents and two siblings. She attends a private Christian School in Baton Rouge as a sophomore. Cassie aspires to me a columnist when she graduates from college, and currently is attempting to find a publisher for her young adult book which is the first of a new genre she created herself. She loves her pets, and is grateful for her accepting friends in such a judgmental environment. Her hobbies include enjoying revolutionary art and reading new books. Currently she is trying to get through high school as fast as she can while learning as much as possible. She has been an Atheist since the sixth grade when she went online trying to learn about her school’s religion and realized it wasn’t something she wanted to be a part of.

 

Read Before You Speak

I have read the bible from cover to cover. How many people can actually say that? I will admit that I have forgotten many of the small details and even some of the major events, but at one time my eyes did glaze over the entire thing.

At school, I once had a girl in my class ask why I knew so much about Christianity. When I told her, she was astounded that an Atheist knew anything about her precious little religion, and could not bring herself to find any reason at all that I could be capable of not believing in her god, had I read all of his wondrous miracles in the bible.

What is considered a wondrous miracle anyway? I’ll admit that the ability to turn water into wine is pretty cool, but it seems like that should be a magical spell in some Harry Potter type book with an alcoholic wizard.

And then there is Kings 2: 23-24 “And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.”

I guess if you are the bald man, the death of those who made fun of you for something you can’t help is a miracle, but it really isn’t fair to the kids. The reason we cannot even legally drink until we 21 is because children’s brains are not even totally developed until they are 21. God made us right? He is all knowing… so doesn’t he know they were just using their underdeveloped child brains to make the stupid decision of making fun of a chosen one of God? I mean, if anything, it is God’s fault that they made fun of the man. He made them to have underdeveloped brains!

This is just one example of the many absolutely insane things that are written in the bible. I promise you that the language the bible is written in was made to bore, but if you want a violent story or just a little comedy, you can find it in your bible.

But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true.

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

  • Natalie Kramm

    Yeah Cass! Preach… you know like secular preaching…

  • Natalie Kramm

    I can relate… considering I am a 16 year old female atheist going to the same Christian school as Cassie surrounded by the same racist, sexist idiots.

  • Luka

    Good for you for standing up and speaking out about your opinions ^-^

  • edwords

    Cassie, there's even more ammunition against Christianity in its own history.Jesus can rise from the dead, but can't save Joan of Arc? (or prevent the

    Reformation?)

    Askastudent.com told me that Joan suffered no pain and went right to Heaven.

    Check out FFRF.ORG. Good people.

  • chris

    Yeah Cassie! And don't let 'Proud Catholic' get you down. The religious can never come to an agreement on what is LITERAL and/or FIGURATIVE in the bible. It changes to suit their needs. They are the ones who get angry when we point out the inconsistencies… Just how can the inspired word of god be figurative anyways? Did god also inspire a study guide? Or is it just the religious changing with advances in knowledge?

  • Nutmeg

    Why is it that Christians always "threaten" people with prayer? I think this young lady makes a good point… she isn't putting down Christianity or any other religion… she's just saying that too many people who claim to follow something haven't the slightest idea what it is that they're following. Educate yourself and then make a choice. It doesn't matter where that choice leads you as long as you can be secure that it is right for you. Preach it, sister!

  • http://www.martinspribble.com/ Martin Pribble

    Good on you Cassie, it takes strength to be true to yourself when in the company of so many who would see to discredit you.

    @ Proud Catholic. Sorry but it's better to be disillusioned peopel (sic) than delusional peopel (sic). It has nothing to do with the decline of our youth, it has to do with access to information, good education, and being given the opportunity to learn and decide for themselves. Go ahead and pray for her, while she goes on to learn about the wonders of the universe.

  • Marie

    Nearly every believer I have ever engaged with has come down to this on that literal vs figurative thing: it's all literal unless there is a passage an atheist likes or can use as a point against the christian construct of god — then that part is figurative.

    Cassie, I've been an atheist all my life, but I was in the closet about it to everyone I knew until just before I started college because it took me that long to even FIND another non-believer. I really wish I had been more like you at your age.

  • Cody

    I know how you feel all too much. I happen to live in and go to high school in southern Alabama. Surrounded by bible pushers who know little about their own religion. For instance, southeners love shrimp and crawfish, while the same passage in the bible that condemns homosexuality also says eating shellfish is an abomination. It says eating anything from the sea that lacks fins and scales is an abomination upon the body. When told of this do they listen? Not a chance. Plus majority of the time when people learn that I am an atheist they feel the need to ask an insanely annoying question, “why don’t you believe in god?” I’ve gotten tired of explaining this to people.

  • Proud Catholic

    so sad. typical decline of our youth. don’t you know there is a difference between the LITERAL and FIGURATIVE translation of the bible, as to coincide with the times of today? Praying for sad, disillusioned peopel like you.

    • Joe Bigliogo

      You sanctimonious, condescending little bitch! What a glib little thoughtless response. Who decides what is figurative and what is literal about the bible? Clergy have been debating such things for centuries and you know somehow which parts are literal and which are metaphor? Maybe the entire bible is figurative. Who are you to dictate interpretation when biblical scholars can't agree? It's exactly why there are so many denominations and offshoots of christianity.
      Let me guess–if it's something negative or bad you'll call it figurative—you're the kind who spins scripture to say what you want it to—as long as it makes the biblical god look good. When Christians like you pray–it's an insult to people of reason everywhere. Go back and wallow in your pus bucket of bronze age ignorance.

      • Emily

        I don’t know about her, but when I read the bible I go with what the scholars and experts on Hebrew tell me is literal and what is figurative, and I find that with a little bit of historical context it makes quite a bit of sense. But, I’m a Christian, so I’ll believe just about anything I’m told anyway.

        • Adam

          The bible says god is NOT the author of confusion. So, don’t you find it odd that you have to have thousands of experts and scholars on Hebrew to tell you what is literal and what is figurative? And, they don’t even agree on their translations. If god was real, he could have helped mankind write a better book!

    • David

      And preachy condescension in which opinion is expected to be treated as fact is so very, very effective in convincing others you know the mind of God and we are barely worthy of pity. Even the “figurative” lessons of the Bible are archaic, mean spirited, sanctimonious and hypocritical … Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing fruit … so watch out people, if Jesus doesn’t like your output he will burn you in HELL … How very sweet a figurative lesson !

  • girl that goes to yo

    cassie….. this is hilarious that you actually have written on this thing. but your picture is pretty. and i agree.

  • Bob

    If you aren't a Christian why do you go to a Christian school? Be happy you aren't in a muslim school. You'd probably be given in marriage to some perv by now, and you wouldn't be able to go to school after a certain age.

    • Diggadee

      It *might* have a teensy bit to do with the fact that her parents make that decision. Ass.

  • Thin-ice

    Comments from Bob and Proud Catholic remind me why after 46 years as an evangelical and missionary, I am now a proud agnostic, free of their superstitions, hate and bigotry. Bob and Proud Catholic, keep your POISON to yourselves!

    Cassie, I wish I had been like you and not wasted 46 years, but I'm thrilled that you used your rational mind and thought your way to freedom at such a young age. We salute you!

  • Choosejoy

    Cassie, I am so happy I stumbled upon this article of yours!
    I’m in the exact same boat[sophomore, Christian school], and it gives me great hope that someday I can come ‘out of the closet’ so to speak, about my agnosticism to my family and friends. This is a very well-written article and I wish you well for the future!
    Keep it up!

  • cuchulain

    I suppose, as long as we're talking about embarressing parts of revered texts, that you acknowledge that Darwin openly supports racism against dark-skinned persons (beginning in fact with his title). How come atheists hardly ever mention this? If you doubt me read the Origin of Species yourself.

    • Diggadee

      Wow, I had no idea that atheism was the worship of Darwin. And doesn’t YOUR god support slavery, murder, rape, racism, cowardice, hate, bigotry, sexism, classism and suicide? And don’t you DARE say he doesn’t…don’t you fukkin dare. Read Leviticus, if you refuse to read any other part of your holier-than-thou text.

      • Siera

        This is me, daring. Check the ten Commandments, and basically all of leviticus.Apparently you didnt read it well enough. If God was classist, why would his son be a carpender? and why would he compare himself a sheperd, the proverbial hobo of the time?

    • DC

      Aww, look at the little creationist who couldn’t read the entire On The Origin of Species and just read the forward by Ray Comfort. Racism was completely normal. And what about christian persecution of the LGBT community? All hunky-dory by comparison?

  • Michelle Larson

    …or you could come to the realization that the Bible (with and capital "B") is a library of books and none of them should be read with a journalistic lens. And your quoting the Bible is not impressive in the least – even the devil quotes it. The shame of it all is that you were given a seat in a Christian school (one that could have been given to someone who actually believes in Christ) and that you can't understand that to translate every book in the Bible (yes, there are books – its a library) literally is going to make your head spin each and every time. Maybe you could submit yourself to someone else's years of biblical study before you go and make an asinine assumption that YOU know what the Bible is trying to teach us all. But who wants to accept the possibility that our interpretation might actually be a wrong one?

    • Diggadee

      Christians certainly don’t want to accept the FACT that the bible – this “word of God” – contradicts itself more than a politician. And have you ever gone to the zoo or to a concert and found that you didn’t like it? Well, christian schools aren’t like that. You don’t have the FREEDOM to just leave. They are no different from concentration camps. Don’t believe me? Then you probably work at one.

  • steven walker

    michelle, are you mad? cool it, damn.

  • Justin

    The greatest comment anyone can say about.life and death is, “I don’t know.” To foolishly believe without any evidence that which was crammed into your head before you could think is idiotic. Unfortunately there are many like Michelle who consider themselves good christians yet are only a few steps away from burning non-believers at the stake. Come on Michelle it is time to evolve.

  • Skooter

    cuchulain… Atheists don't mention it because what you said is NOT TRUE. Darwin was very careful to not discuss human evolution in his book. NOWHERE in there does he say that black people are inferior and should be hated because of their dark skin.

    And despite what many Christians claim, atheists don't follow Darwin's research with the same vigor that Christians follow the Bible. We don't consider it to be "inerrant." We don't worship Darwin. There ARE flaws in his book.

    One big difference between science and religion is that with science, we are allowed to find new evidence that disproves previous ideas. Science is all about finding truth because of the evidence. Religion DENIES truth, IN SPITE OF the evidence.

  • Kara

    Those of you mocking this girl, read closely; she's actually encouraging people to further their knowledge of their chosen beliefs. You should be celebrating what she is saying. Knowledge is a beautiful thing.

  • amy c

    Michelle: "…or you could come to the realization that the Bible is a library of [fictional] books and none of them should be read."
    FIFY

    • http://www.godandscience.org James

      Best Answer

      I just answered a question on this yesterday, so I’ll copy and paste my answer (it’s long, just to warn you):

      First of all, the word that was translated as “small boys” is “na‛ar”, which was usually translated as “young man/men”. So these weren’t children, these were young men.

      Secondly, they were threatening him. This was right after Elijah had been taken up to heaven, and they were telling Elisha to go do the same thing.

      Third, calling someone a “baldhead” in that time was not referring to how much hair they had on their head. Basically, they were calling Elisha a leper.

      Fourthly, it says that two “she-bears” came and tore forty-two of the youths. This implies that there were more than 42 of them. So how many were there? Forty-three? Sixty? Eighty? A hundred?

      Fifthly, how close together would those youths have had to be, in order for two she-bears to attack so many of them?

      Sixthly, it does not say that the youths were killed, only that they were attacked.

      Last of all, how would YOU feel if you were surrounded by a bunch of youths (more than forty-two), who were all telling you to go die, and calling you a scumbag? May I also remind you that there were no police officers back then, so Elisha was on his own? Honestly, what would YOU do?

      Edit: Yes, and Joseph was also referred to as a “na‛ar” when he was interpreting dreams for the Pharaoh, and yet he wasn’t a young child. So obviously, the word “na‛ar” has multiple meanings, like many other words in Hebrew.

      However, if 2 Kings was referring to very young children and not teenagers, why didn’t the author use the word “‛ăvîyl” or even ‛ôlêl? Obviously, the author was not referring to very young children, but teenagers, if not young adults. The only reason it was translated as “little children” in the KJV is because of the word “qâṭân”, which can also refer to servants, or people who just aren’t very important, not just “little” people.

      Edit 2: It does seem extreme on first reading, I’ll agree. But again, it wasn’t about them taunting him. It was about a large group of youths/young men/teenagers/boys threatening a prophet of God, and calling him a leper. If it was just ten kids, calling him a name, it probably wouldn’t have been a big deal. But imagine that you’ve just seen your best friend and mentor, a man who was like a father to you, taken up into heaven. Imagine that you’re walking into a town that you’re supposed to do some charity work in, and a group of more than three dozen boys surrounds you, telling you to go do what your friend, spiritual father and mentor just did. Nowadays, someone in that situation would call the police. Back then, there was no such option.

    • http://www.godandscience.org James

      I just answered a question on this yesterday, so I’ll copy and paste my answer (it’s long, just to warn you):

      First of all, the word that was translated as “small boys” is “na‛ar”, which was usually translated as “young man/men”. So these weren’t children, these were young men.

      Secondly, they were threatening him. This was right after Elijah had been taken up to heaven, and they were telling Elisha to go do the same thing.

      Third, calling someone a “baldhead” in that time was not referring to how much hair they had on their head. Basically, they were calling Elisha a leper.

      Fourthly, it says that two “she-bears” came and tore forty-two of the youths. This implies that there were more than 42 of them. So how many were there? Forty-three? Sixty? Eighty? A hundred?

      Fifthly, how close together would those youths have had to be, in order for two she-bears to attack so many of them?

      Sixthly, it does not say that the youths were killed, only that they were attacked.

      Last of all, how would YOU feel if you were surrounded by a bunch of youths (more than forty-two), who were all telling you to go die, and calling you a scumbag? May I also remind you that there were no police officers back then, so Elisha was on his own? Honestly, what would YOU do?

      Edit: Yes, and Joseph was also referred to as a “na‛ar” when he was interpreting dreams for the Pharaoh, and yet he wasn’t a young child. So obviously, the word “na‛ar” has multiple meanings, like many other words in Hebrew.

      However, if 2 Kings was referring to very young children and not teenagers, why didn’t the author use the word “‛ăvîyl” or even ‛ôlêl? Obviously, the author was not referring to very young children, but teenagers, if not young adults. The only reason it was translated as “little children” in the KJV is because of the word “qâṭân”, which can also refer to servants, or people who just aren’t very important, not just “little” people.

      Edit 2: It does seem extreme on first reading, I’ll agree. But again, it wasn’t about them taunting him. It was about a large group of youths/young men/teenagers/boys threatening a prophet of God, and calling him a leper. If it was just ten kids, calling him a name, it probably wouldn’t have been a big deal. But imagine that you’ve just seen your best friend and mentor, a man who was like a father to you, taken up into heaven. Imagine that you’re walking into a town that you’re supposed to do some charity work in, and a group of more than three dozen boys surrounds you, telling you to go do what your friend, spiritual father and mentor just did. Nowadays, someone in that situation would call the police. Back then, there was no such option.

    • Dee

      It’s ok to read the bible… not worship it!

  • Christopher Bogardus

    Cassie i know how u feel i live in a town were there is only a few atheist the rest are high strung Christians
    like u i have asked many Christians if they have read the bible and almost all of them have not read the bible
    the people in my town look down upon anyone who is not a white straight Christians
    i am a bisexual male atheist and people have tried to "convert" in my terms brainwash me i have read the bible and this is why i became an atheist
    and to all the bigots who are trying to make her feel bad u are the reason why this world is in ciaos your hate has for thousands of years caused wars murder torture and numerous other disastrous but truthfully it is wasn't your fault until you became adults then you have no excuse for not escaping the brainwashing that your religious leaders, of whom is made up of con-men, have forced upon the vast majority of the worlds youth.
    but continue to try to make us atheist insecure we will never be effected and remember that all of you theist our there have caused hundreds of thousands of deaths and the largest religious conflict is the wars in the middle east today it started in black ages and the CHRISTIANS began it ALL!

    • Katy

      You call Christians bigots? Yours is the most ignorant, bigoted comment on this whole page. We are not “brainwashed,” nor do we attempt to “brainwash.” You say that you have read the Bible. What, I must ask, is the biblical basis of your rant against Christianity? Did Jesus kill people? Did He teach His people to be violent and spiteful? No, He didn’t. I will never, ever claim that Christians are all good, Jesus-like people, but to say that we were the sole cause of all of history’s Crusades is ridiculous. It sounds to me like you are blinded by hate and are unable to see the good things Christians do. We feed the hungry, house the sick, pray for those in need, give to the poor, and emphasize living a Christlike life. We do not hate Atheists; we don’t hate anyone. “Love your neighbor as yourself,” Jesus taught us. You sound like the bigoted hothead here. I’ll pray for you because it sounds like you need it. I don’t at all understand your hostility and blind hate. God Bless.

      • DC

        then go ahead and hug your nearest LGBT fellow.

  • ServantofChrist

    I'm a 17 year old girl, and I am a firm believer in Christ. I don't wish to lecture anyone, and God has given us all free will to choose what we, His children, believe. I am in the process of reading the Bible from cover-to-cover, so I admit I have not read all of the Bible as of yet. But I would like to point out, concerning the boys of Bethel in 2 Kings, that this is supposed to show us that God had a zero-tolerance for those who mocked his messenger (Elisha). It does sound harsh, I admit. But He always has reason for His actions.
    And 'Nutmeg', we don't "threaten" anyone with prayer. Prayer is merely our line to God so we may talk to Him about anything we feel to talk about. It's a blessing to be prayed for. I, and God Himself, do not appreciate prayer being called a "threat".
    I know every unbeliever who reads this will find something "wrong" or something they do not like about my comment, but I want you all to know that I respect Cassie's decision, and God respects it as well. After all, free will does mean you have the right to choose what your beliefs are. But please don't disrespect my faith after I have shown respect for what you do or do not believe in.

    • Dee

      Awww… Cmon, atheists are boom-powing so hard on religion (with facts from the very same source of worship) that they now call label this healthy rational debate ‘disrespect’.

  • Duncan the J

    Whilst I would agree that Christians need to think before they speak, and read up on what they believe, as a Christian I'd have to disagree with what you're saying about Christianity.

    'little children' is a poor translation of the above story. It's about young men, possibly drunkards, who are sinning against a prophet of the Lord by mocking him. God protects those who walk in obedience to him, and showed his anger by bringing two bears out of the woods.

    It's easy to pre-judge a book by reading it from a certain viewpoint: generally speaking, it's possible to see what you want to see and ignore the rest. While there are certain answers to passages I might not know about (and seek to enlarge my understanding of), I do know this: That Jesus died for my sins, was ressurected me and allowed me, in his mercy, to inherit eternal life. And that's something very precious to me, and it's not something you can take away.

  • ServantofChrist

    I'm a 17 year old girl who's a Christian, with love for Jesus Christ, and I admit I have not read the entire Bible as of yet, but I am in the process. First off, I want to say to "Nutmeg", that praying is not a threat. It's a blessing and a gift from God that He gave us in order for us to be able to talk to Him. Please don't insult me or my God by describing it as such.
    Secondly, I am sad all of you don't have faith in Jesus Christ, but Jesus Himself gave us all free will. My choice is to accept Him, and I will respect your decision to not accept Him as the One True God, as will He.
    In response to Kings 2: 23-24, one must understand that God was bringing across a point that He will not tolerate His Word being mocked. I know killing the boys seems harsh, I as a Christian acknowledge that, but He has His reasons, and His action definitely brings across the point that we shouldn't cross Him. Plus, Kings is in the Old Testament before Jesus died for all of our sins, so God worked in different ways then than He does now. The Old Testament is the Old Law, which Jesus did away with 2,000 years ago.
    I know someone here will find something to correct or mock that I have written, but I speak only truth. You may accept it or you may not.
    God loves all of His children, and that includes YOU! Although you may not believe in Him, He still loves you and wants you to know Him. I pray (not as a threat, but as a motion of love) that someday soon you WILL know and love Him as your Heavenly Father. God Bless!

    • J_watson2000

      So it is ok for “God” and “Jesus” pronounced Je-Zeus (coincidence?) to kill but not us.  We are created in his image as being perfect but he gave us sin and puts us to death for our sins.  That’s like me giving a kid a bowl of ice cream then whipping him for eating it.  

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  • http://www.godandscience.org James

    First of all, the word that was translated as “small boys” is “na‛ar”, which was usually translated as “young man/men”. So these weren’t children, these were young men.

    Secondly, they were threatening him. This was right after Elijah had been taken up to heaven, and they were telling Elisha to go do the same thing.

    Third, calling someone a “baldhead” in that time was not referring to how much hair they had on their head. Basically, they were calling Elisha a leper.

    Fourthly, it says that two “she-bears” came and tore forty-two of the youths. This implies that there were more than 42 of them. So how many were there? Forty-three? Sixty? Eighty? A hundred?

    Fifthly, how close together would those youths have had to be, in order for two she-bears to attack so many of them?

    Sixthly, it does not say that the youths were killed, only that they were attacked.

    Last of all, how would YOU feel if you were surrounded by a bunch of youths (more than forty-two), who were all telling you to go die, and calling you a scumbag? May I also remind you that there were no police officers back then, so Elisha was on his own? Honestly, what would YOU do?

    Edit: Yes, and Joseph was also referred to as a “na‛ar” when he was interpreting dreams for the Pharaoh, and yet he wasn’t a young child. So obviously, the word “na‛ar” has multiple meanings, like many other words in Hebrew.

    However, if 2 Kings was referring to very young children and not teenagers, why didn’t the author use the word “‛ăvîyl” or even ‛ôlêl? Obviously, the author was not referring to very young children, but teenagers, if not young adults. The only reason it was translated as “little children” in the KJV is because of the word “qâṭân”, which can also refer to servants, or people who just aren’t very important, not just “little” people.

    Edit 2: It does seem extreme on first reading, I’ll agree. But again, it wasn’t about them taunting him. It was about a large group of youths/young men/teenagers/boys threatening a prophet of God, and calling him a leper. If it was just ten kids, calling him a name, it probably wouldn’t have been a big deal. But imagine that you’ve just seen your best friend and mentor, a man who was like a father to you, taken up into heaven. Imagine that you’re walking into a town that you’re supposed to do some charity work in, and a group of more than three dozen boys surrounds you, telling you to go do what your friend, spiritual father and mentor just did. Nowadays, someone in that situation would call the police. Back then, there was no such option.

  • Doris

    I’m glad that your fight for what you believe. But I think you still don’t understand the true meaning of Christianity and reading the bible. I am a christian girl that studied every religion and thoughts of all kinds of people, and I can say that God made us to have limited knowledge. If we knew everything we would be Gods also and that can’t happen because God is only one and there can’t be more than one God. Miracles are considered when something out of the ordinary that can’t be explained not by science nor nature, it done by humans nor spells. I do admit that there are some christian that are really irritating and stupid but they done understand God. us christian believe in having a relationship with God so that we worship him for all he has done for us and so that we don’t spend all eternity in hell. I have atheist friends and we respect each other but when you are christian you know what is good and what is bad. atheist don’t they just want to life live life free without boundaries and rules. they want to be free. and I get that but us christian are free too. for example when we pray for the sick (like cancer) science can’t heal it or even find cures, when we pray to God to heal them and the person believes they get cured and doctor and scientist can’t explain it. … All i’m saying is that when you have a true relationship with God, you know what is right in this world of chaos and corruptions . try having a relationship with God and truly test him out, you will see what I mean.

    • Chris

      When has anyone of prayer and faith ever miraculously regrown an amputated limb besides the story in the bible? Just because science cannot explain a medical “miracle” yet, doesn’t mean it is god who is to blame for their recovery. Miracles like what you speak of are mere coincidences to people working in the medical profession like myself. Find a better excuse for faith And I’ll be more than happy to entertain it.

      • Stephen K

        What area of “the medical field” are you in? You should read some of what Francis Collins, MD, and Human Genome lead scientist, has to say about faith.

      • http://www.facebook.com/danielle.wells.1420 Danielle Wells

        I didn’t have a leg grow back but God healed my body from ovarian cancer..no I didn’t go into remission he completley healed my body to the point where the doctors couldn’t find it..This happened for me over 19 years aog. I never thought I would be able to have children but this Feb I gave birth to precious baby girl..that he named and told me down to the exact day when I would concieve and when she would be born coincidence I don’t think so….

  • Chris

    Way to go Cassie! Knowledge truly is power and truth will set anyone free! Keep up the good work!

  • Darcy

    I too go to a religious school, but thankfully my school is much more accepting of different beliefs. Most of the girls in my year are actually atheists. Personally, having studied the bible and various religions over the years, I simply feel like I have seen to much to ever believe in Christianity. Disillusioned? Yes, slightly, I feel like I have seen the truth and cannot delude myself again, regardless of the comfort I believe it gives others. To think that there is a greater, good power looking out for you? Meaning in the world? A greater plan? I believe this sort of comfort and belief, even though I think it misguided, can be beneficiary to many. One thing I do disagree with in terms of such beliefs is the effect of different religions fighting over their beliefs. Too many a conflict, wars and terrorism, have been inadvertently caused (in part)by such strong beliefs. Also, the stubborn people who fail to educate themselves in their own religion, closed off from any other viewpoints who tell me that I am an ignorant atheist, with no morals or meaning in my life? That I shall burn in hell? I cannot stand these close minded, judgmental, stubborn, hateful, hypocritical people. Too many are so ignorant. Good on you Cassie, for educating yourself on Christianity. Keep on learning.

  • http://Sarah Name*

    Cool it, guys. If were all honest about it, Christians have no proof saying the bible is true. But Athiests have no proof otherwise. Look it up. No genuine historical or scientifical fact can prove anything in the bible wrong. If you say miracles, than try to explain anything in nature. Really, and even every cell in your body is so incredibly detailed, there is no way this could happen by chance. And just because you don’t understand something ddosn’t make it wrong. There are bigger brains than yours out there. I guess what I’m trying to say is. I would much rather go my whole life beleiving that their is a God, then die and it be for nothing, than live life for myself and die, and suddelny be in heaven, see His face, and know that I wasted His gift… then go to hell

    • Martin Nichols

      Then what if you die, see his face and he tells you: “Sorry man, you go to hell the Jews were right.”???

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Atheism is the default value of a human being so it’s yours to prove we are wrong.

      • Theodore

        Completely false. The default setting for the human mind. That is why, poll after poll, most of the Earth believes in some higher power. There is no burden of proof — that is the antithesis to faith, you moron!

      • Theodore

        Completely false. The default setting for the human mind is belief. That is why, poll after poll, most of the Earth believes in some higher power. There is no burden of proof — that is the antithesis to faith, you moron!

      • J_watson2000

        Atheism is a default value of a human being?  Who created humans and gave them free will?  If your “God” is so perfect why did he create imperfect human beings?  God also said, I will destroy the earth, all humans and animals, I am sorry i created man. But he loves you?  In the bible, murder, slavery, oppression, child abuse, rape, theft and many other crimes are condoned and a way of life.  But if we commit them we burn in hell?  What a load of crap!!!! 

    • CAD

      Not strictly true… some things have been proven and dis-proven… but in actuality this article is kind of not so much going against religion… but Christianity itself. It’s not as broadbased as some would believe

    • http://www.facebook.com/samuelnstevens Sam Stevens

      Actually, there is a plethora of historical and scientific inaccuracies in the bible.  Also, many of the more specific prophesies in the bible never came to pass. For example, the famous story of Joshua destroying the wall of Jericho is impossible. Archaeological evidence shows the wall was destroyed in 2300 bce by an earthquake, while the bible claims God destroyed it in 1400 bce. 
      The city was also thoroughly destroyed by a fire and then abandoned in 1600 BCE. Jericho was not inhabited again until 700 BCE. There was no wall to tumble down or citizens to destroy at Jericho within centuries of when the Bible says Joshua was there.

      There was no Jericho for Joshua to destroy or capture.  It did not exist at the time.  If the bible is wrong about history, who is to say it is not wrong about God?  The burden of proof lies upon you my friend.  
      “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” – 1 Thessalonians 5:21   Prove the bible, only then can you “hold it fast.”  The bible even claims that it is of more noble character to question scripture: 
      “Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” Acts 17:11 

      Now that I have proven everything you have said to be wrong, back up and try again–use correct theology this time, please? 

    • J_watson2000

      The bible proves itself wrong, we don’t have to do that.  The actual order of “Gods” days of creation can’t even be agreed on.  Adam and Eve, first people on earth, had two sons, and they married.  Who did they marry?  I don’t recall it mentioning anything about Adam and Eve’s daughters. And if so that was incest, incest is a sin and punishable by death.  But “God” destroyed the earth in the great flood.  Only Noahs family was saved, and they repopulated the earth,  again incest.  I wouldn’t use the bible as a family guide when God had to drown his own children. 

  • Sarah

    Also, why are people bringing up things that happened thousands of years ago like the crusades? If christians brought up 9/11 to say muslims are evil (no, im not saying they are, just an example), you would say “that was a select few, not the whole religeon”, and “the past is the past, let’s move on to the future.”

    Anyone else seeing a double standard here
    But to all my fellow christians, remember Matthew 5:10. We are in some dark times, but eventually, every knee shall bow, and every tounge confess that Jesus Christ is LORD”
    “and if our God is for us, than who can ever stop us?”

    • Johnny 5

      Okay, I’ll say it. Islam is evil, too. Religion poisons, in all its forms, without exception. No double standard.

  • Good Start but….

    This is an okay start if you want to be a critical thinker, but you completely discredited yourself by saying “I read the Bible cover to cover — how many people can say that?”.

    Reading the bible and doing superficial research (which is precisely what you’ve done) is not enough. You have made ample presumptions, committed several logical fallacies and clearly have not done enough research to validate your empty claims. I highly recommend that you do research into Biblical archeology, history, cultural studies, cryptography, textual variants and maybe even a little Hebrew and Greek. Then, and only then, will you be SOMEWHAT prepared to study this ancient text.

    • Matt

      Hmm, quite a high bar for a 15 year old to jump, no?  She is thinking critically about the Christian culture that uses the Bible (in it’s many present forms and translations) to justify their faith.  It is most appropriate to use the texts they use to criticise them.  

      Your claims that she commits logical fallacies would be more credible if you actually point them out.  

      Study of the Bible as a historical document is very different from study of the religions it has spawned.  I hope you realize this.

  • Carol

    Yes i want to comment to you athesist and especially you Cassie. I am a christian. Why are you in a christian school if you don’t believe in God? I think you are there to try to cause those christian students to turn away from God. Satan comes to kill and destroy and that’s why he is using you. Be strong; stand up to him. I speak like Servantofchrist comment. We don’t force you to pray; prayer is powerful and that’s how we stand up to you and Athesist. God is our father; Jesus christ is our Savior and without him, you will have eternal life in Hell. It’s all right there in the bible; as a christian we believe the bible and don’t doubt it; that is what faith is. So Cassie i challenge you to prove me wrong; i challenge to pray to God; seek your students that are really christians there; they will help you; don’t let these athesists corrupt you any longer. You are a child of god; he is your protector.

    • Ashley

      Generally, people don’t choose what schools they go to, and, based on this post, I’m sure Cassie doesn’t WANT to be at a Christian school. It seems as though, and I’m merely speculating, that her parents /wanted/ her to go to that school.
      Who says she’s spewing hate at the school? Who said she’s trying to “cause those christian students to turn away from God”? That sounds, and excuse my bluntness, absolutely stupid. This girl, that was put into a Christian school, probably feels uncomfortable sharing her beliefs, as to not feel ostracized by her peers.
      “These atheists” that are commenting seem (for the most part) to be very polite and comforting, as well as understanding, of this girl’s situation and her DECISION as to not believe in a higher power.
      The vast majority of comments coming from so-called Christians are that of ” Why are you in a christian school if you don’t believe in God? I think you are there to try to cause those christian students to turn away from God.” and “The shame of it all is that you were given a seat in a Christian school (one that could have been given to someone who actually believes in Christ)” (wow, I thought Christians were supposed to accept people and spread the word of their lord?).
      Hell (irony), I could go on for ages. But I won’t.

      Have a nice night.

    • Anonymous

      The thing about atheism is this: it’s not like I can just get up one day and choose to truly believe in a god. I can no more do this than you can choose to find truth in the Koran. It’s not a conscious choice. I can certainly say that I have faith, but, as James 2:14 says, that means nothing. It rings empty. The Bible holds about as much truth (literal or metaphorical) as the Harry Potter series. Now, by the same token, I will not stand for those like Richard Dawkins who actively try to “convert” theists. I don’t keep my faith (or lack of such) in the closet, but at the same time, waving it in others’ faces is just as obnoxious as those theists doing ostentatious faith healings in public. I am an atheist, but before that comes prudence. When I enter a church, I take my hat off. I do it not because I believe in the Christian Jesus, but because it is respectful.

      On another note, yes, I do go to a Methodist Church. I attend the Catholic Mass. I have been to Temple before. I go to a Catholic school, and Theology classes have been my favored subject so far. I don’t need to take everything at its word in order to enjoy it, just as you don’t need to believe that there was an Atticus Finch who once lived in Maycomb, Alabama in order to enjoy Harper Lee’s book. As for Satan…well, I’m sorry, but I guess I’ll put you in the same category as Santorum’s quotation about Satanic forces attacking the American Dream. I am a lot of things, among them imperfect, but I see Satan as a scare tactic used by the Medieval Church, not as something/someone to worship. Sorry. Hope I didn’t disappoint you.

    • DC

      I have been to the mountaintop, I have seen the other side. Atheists do not seek to corrupt anyone. They do not inform anyone. And it isn’t exactly a choice to go to a christian or catholic or jewish or even islamic school. They are chosen by their parents to go to this school. Satan is using her, yeah right. Any documented proof of his existance? And if you say “The bible told me so” I’m just going to post HAHAHA

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cesar-Cariño-Jr/100000077601077 Cesar Cariño Jr.

      Hahahah! The “atheists are satanists” claim. I like it.

  • Don Williams

    HI Cassie I would very much love to invite you to our little church in Lincoln Arkansas it’s called Christain Faith Fellowship were a small but very powerful church and we would so much love to have you as a guest and show you Gods Faith Not from the mind but from the Heart so please except our invitation We will have our doors open for you and receive you in our arms, I know that sometimes we do slip and not hear what God has really been saying to us Just maybe you didn’t hear your prayers right when you were a child and we would love to help you understand them dreams and visions our Gods way and we hope you would let us come into your life Please give us a chance we will actually invite any and all Athiests to please attend our church and so very loving would drop it all for you drop me a line harleydson@msn.com Please I will answer any and all emails from any Athiests and will except you in waiting arms Here’s to Gods Great Work God Bless to you all and your families we are praying hard for each and everyone of you

    • Adam

      Don, she doesn’t want your help. Why do you all feel you need to come on here and preach? NO ONE cares.

    • Tokethebowl

      Did you even read her article ? why would she want to try another church when she has already told you she knows the truth about it all being fictional fables ? See that’s the real problem with you believers, you forget that the reason why you have faith, is really because you lack facts, but you see once you have facts, there is no need for faith. I learned enough about your religion to know it’s just a fabrication, a melding of sorts, they took all the known religions and cults of the time and combined them into one. Judaism and Paganism were both stolen from, which is why you put up a Saturnalia Tree and a Druid’s Wreath during your Christmas celebrations and why your bible contains what you call the OT, which everyone knows it’s just a bad translation of the Torah. So have fun in your pretty church pretending that your story is the real deal.

  • SoftballLover9

    How could you not believe in Him? Look around, how do you think it got here? Magic? I dont think so. Actually I KNOW so. God created them and he created you. He sent his Son to die for you and for me and for everyone in this while entire world!!!! He loves each and everyone of us. The end of the world is coming soon, I can feel it. God is coming back to this earth to take his people home. You better be ready when he gets here unless you want to spend eternity in hell where there is weaping and dwelling and gnashing of teeth. To me that doesnt sound awesome. I would rather be up in heaven with God walking on the streets of gold. Ill be praying for you and I hope you answer God’s call. HE loves you… Ill be praying for your salvation.

    • Adam

      Another example of why we are proud to be atheists… you change no one’s mind with that dribble.

      • Truth

        The most ignorant thing a person can say is that they are not at all ignorant. By claiming to be an Atheist, you are climbing to know all that is and thus proving your ignorance.

        • EvolutionKills

          What? This only shows that you have a skewed view of the definition of Atheist. Atheism is, in the broadest sense, ‘lack of belief in gods’. That’s all it is, lack of belief. It is NOT the positive belief that no gods exist, just an acknowledgment that our reality has no evidence to support the existence of any gods.

          None of the ‘new atheists’ (Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens, and Harris) advocate that we know for sure there are no gods. Most atheist I’ve met and talked to fall under the braod definition. I’ve yet to actually meet a ‘strong’ or ‘gnostic’ atheist that claimed to know that no gods exist. They are a rare breed indeed, because those inclined to question reality and not accept blind faith, are very unlikely to make unsupported faith claims themselves.

          However, we can reasonably conclude that the Christian god, Yahweh, does not exists as described in the Bible. That conception of a god is self contradictory, logically impossible, and lacks any evidence in support of it’s existence.

          A deistic or pantheistic ‘god’ might exists, but the God of the Bible most assuredly doesn’t as described in said book.

    • Tokethebowl

      Is your fear based post supposed to scare me into believing in your loving god fantasy ? Sorry ball lover but if there is a true loving god, and I say IF because I have yet to see an evidence to prove this and I have searched high and low. But if there is a true loving god, it won’t care if I worshiped it, or believed ancient texts, it should only care for the good I have done in it’s creation when I was here. Let me ask , do you support women’s issues ? Do you support equal rights ? Do you support Gay/Lesbian rights ? Just curious…

    • DC

      No, I believe the point here is that she does not believe in magic. If I could italicize or bold that I would. Put it this way: A supercondensed sphere of matter exists. It expands. It expands completely to form a universe. Versus your claim. A giant holy ghost came out of the sky and made the planet 7,000 years ago flat and in the center of the universe. Which seems more like magic?

      • Dreimer10

        And to that I ask, how did the supercondensed sphere of matter get there? There are several scientists/theologians who can explain the Genisis account (from the original Hebrew) to agree with The Big Bang Theory. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that it was created 7,000 years ago, or that it was in the center of the universe.

        • http://www.facebook.com/samuelnstevens Sam Stevens

          Those accounts utilize the idea that “day” doesn’t = a 24 hour day.  This is false, simply because the Hebrew word used directly indicates the 24 hour day.  They had another word for a metaphorical day that would have been used if they didn’t mean that the universe was actually created in 6 days.  If they truly believe the 6 day account, explain to me how the earth was formed before stars if all elements heavier than helium and hydrogen form in the furnaces of stars, and are spread out when the stars explode? We are all stardust my friend. 

          • Dreimer10

            Yeah, but it also says that the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters of the deep. In plain words, God is powerful enough to have created the universe and let, say, 14 billion years elapse in our time, and then continue the process of making our earth the home it is. 

            Also, two notes. First of all, the root Hebrew word yowm {or yome} is actually from an unused root meaning to be hot. http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/3117.html Many scholars have come up with various more in depth definitions of it, but these, for obvious reasons, don’t capture the essence of the word.

            Second note, in that scenario you presented second (which I don’t believe either, but for the sake of argument…) a God who can create the Big Bang, for which scientists have currently no idea about what happened in the first 10^-43 second [as much I hate playing God of the gaps], and make it to be as perfectly stable as it is, would also assumingly have to power to create something else before it was technically possible. But as I said before, I don’t believe that either, but he could have.

          • Truth

            You do realize that hebrew is much much much different from English. Many words mean multiple things.

        • DC

          A secondary theory is that that what we view in perspective as time doesn’t exist, it merely moves forward to a point were it begins to condense again, time reversing as it does so. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cesar-Cariño-Jr/100000077601077 Cesar Cariño Jr.

      Oh yeah? So you’re God loved us? Really?

      I have these issues you should address.

      1. Atheists don’t believe in magic. Christians do.

      2. You know that the world is going to end? How did you know that? Can you show me a TANGIBLE and RELIABLE evidence aside from your century-old and contradictory book? (the bible).

      3. You say you’re god is a loving god. Aren’t atheists children of your god?
      So we are also worthy of that salvation, isn’t that right? And in the first place, why would a loving and caring god make a giant furnace to barbecue us atheists in it? I can say that he is not loving. He is a sadist. He even made this world a place of suffering. This world is already hell. You can say that it’s true if you just open your eyes.

      4. I don’t want to kiss your god’s ass. I desire for a moral life and that is because I have a moral obligation towards others. I don’t desire for heaven because it’s just damn selfish. You work for your good deeds to have that reward. I don’t.

      5. And if even you’re right. I don’t care. You’re god is but a sadist, genocidal, insecure person who permits the killing of babies and a never-ending torture fiesta. I hate that idea.

      • guest

        1. Christians don’t believe in magic. They believe in God.
        2.Evidence is evidence. The bible counts. After all we don’t make you prove that you have to air to breathe.
        3.You are not God’s child until you get saved.
        4.All you have to do is get saved and believe in God to go to Heaven. You can’t get in by your good deeds.
        5. God doesn’t make your decisions for you. You do that on your own.

        • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

          1. Miracles = magic. 2. Stick your head in a plastic bag. Can you breathe? 3. So babies are not gods children, so they go to hell when they die? 4. I was saved once, now am atheist. So I am going to heaven regardless right? 5. “and god hardened Pharoh’s heart…” nuff said.

          • ♥Amanda♥

            No! Babies have not committed sin yet, so they go to heaven! If you were once saved and now turned your back on God, you will not see heaven. :’( We are not truly born again if we do not repent…leave our sinful ways and not continue in them. Breaks my heart you have known God and now you turn your back on Him. He is a very loving God, please come back to Him, He will accept you back! :) Oh and about Him hardening Pharoah’s heart (I’ve been reading that yesterday and today! ;D ) …He did it so that the world will see His power and KNOW that He is the one and only true God!! Praise the LORD! His mercy endures forever! His mercy is new every day! :) )

            • http://www.facebook.com/robert.goodwin.1614 Robert Goodwin

              Amanda I’m going to ask one question and let us see if you have any response.
              If god is loving and all knowing, why did he “create” me, when he already knew I would reject him because of the lack of evidence? Does he just like to cause pain? Because based on what I’m hearing that is the only possible reason he’d have for bringing me into existence… Of course no matter your response… if you haven’t proven the existence of god then the whole point is moot.

            • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

              Yes Very loving god.

              1. 7 million children under the age of 5 die yearly around the world.

              2. Your loving god cares more about the “free will” of the murder, rapist, child molester than he does of the free will of the innocents. His only solution…”I’ll get you later….if you don’t repent.”

              LMAO. Oh, if only I could do that in court.

              “Your honor, I am sooooo sorry that I killed 43 people. Please, please forgive. I throw myself on the mercy of the court!”

              “Mr. Hernandez, I believe you are being truthful and have truly repented. Because of this,” Slams that gavel, “Case dismissed. You are free to go. Just try to behave!” Lmmfao. If that is what you call justice by your god. I prefer hell. lmao.

              Also as a person who totes free will, you seem to have no problem with pharohs heart being hardened by god. Just to show off his powers. Lmao. And then murdering every 1st born child of egypt? And this is loving correct? You are an idiot and an immoral person if this are truly your views.

            • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

              Also if babies commit no sin, then why did you sadistic god, kill them by the masses on the OT?

              Egypts first born.

              The cannites

          • Truth

            Magic has been a term traditionally used to describe that which is unknown.

            If you’ve read the bible then you wouldn’t ask question 3. The bible speaks of not being responsible enough to make decisions until a certain age. Kind of like voting.

            No you will not go to heaven. Unless you are saved.

            Hardened the Pharoah’s heart?

            Gods actions hardened his heart. Thus it was the Pharoah’s in response to Moses and the Jews who hardened his own heart….

            Nuff Said

            • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

              Nuff said because you say so? Lol. No. Pharohs heart was hardened by ur god so he could show off his power. Its in black and white. Nuff said

      • Sam

        So hes a Sadist that gave you the moral compass to hate sadisim? I’m sorrry to put It this way, but if we believe people who discover great things here on Earth are deserving of incredibly fame and glory, how much more the one who created it all? All of Creation exsists for us to enjoy and to point towards God. All of exsistence was meant for his glory. He is a jealous God, and gets pleasure from us taking pleasure in him.
        Also, as the one who made the rules you strive to live by, you should realize that as he is all powerful and deserving of all glory, and if that was the case, he is completely in the right to judge you. He gave you freewill because having robots praising you is not real praise. He wanted to give you the choice to turn to him.
        He already acts in your life every day. Every thing you enjoy comes from him. He uses evil for good.
        And for good things Christians have done, try Katie Davis for one. She was around 20 when she left her well-to-do family in Tennessee, and all the comforts of life to live in Uganda. She left love, family, and school for Christ’s calling, her “destiny” so to speak. She has now adopted 14 children there, and started an organization that feeds, cares for, and educates children in Uganda. I could list others, such as Compassion International, Samaritan’s Purse, and more.
        The church does not always live up to the standards, but God does.

        • Galen Olson

          Another nutjob!

        • EvolutionKills

          How do you know? If all you have is the uncorroborated claims of the fallacious Bible, you got nothing.

          Our morals are a social construct, emerging from our own evolution as we became more social creatures and slowly developed communication and language skills. We don’t need a God to hand us out ‘dos’ and out ‘don’ts’, especially when he violates his own rules as often as he does.

          God get all of the glory for creation, then he also gets all of the blame. For creating a universe that is perfectly tuned to make black holes, and not live bearing worlds. If he created life, then he also created viruses, diseases, and parasites; things whose sole purpose appears to be little more than self procreation and the suffering of other beings. You god created humanity? If he get credit for great works of art, literature, and discovery; then he also shares the blame for murder, hate, wars, and genocide.

          Freewill? It’s not free at all. If we chose to act in a way that defies your God’s will, then we will suffer an eternity of torture for finite ‘crimes’ (which is the most extreme example of injustice I can think of). We do not have freewill, because of the penalty associated with defying Gods will. So the only way to avoid punishment is to comply with God’s will. THAT IS NOT FREEDOM. And only an abject metal slave would think otherwise.

          Not only that, but who the FUCK are you to presume to speak on behalf of the creator of the universe? You speak with such confidence and intimate knowledge about the desires and motivations of your God, but you are not Him. Did he speak to you personally? Sorry, not good enough. Personal revelation mean fuck all to anyone else (or at least it should), because there is no way to verify the authenticity of the message. And appearantly there are plenty of people claiming to speak for God, and it’s funny how most of them make contradictory claims on his will and desire. Funny thing that, you’d almost think he’s human.

          Man wasn’t made in God’s image, we created him in our image. That why he is so flawed, indeed so terribly human in nature. If only every one would wake up to this truth so obviously staring you in the face and get over it already, we could finally start to truly stand up to our full height as a species.

      • ♥Amanda♥

        You’re hatin’ on the wrong one Cesar! How about hating the devil! Or do you not believe he exists either? You’re in for a rude awakening! It is time for unbelievers to wake up and realise there IS a heaven and a hell and that the devil is a liar, Jesus calls him the ‘father of lies’. God did not make this world a place of suffering, the FATHER OF LIES did that!!! When he LIED to Eve and told her God didn’t want them to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, because then they would become like gods! Eve and Adam were disobedient to God and fell for his lies and THAT’s how sin and evil came into the world. Please get right with God, He loves you very much and He does not want anyone to perish, He wants you to repent. Heed His call, please, think of where you will spend eternity…if in hell, you will be cut off from the presence of God FOREVER! Do you really want that??? :/ God loves you more than your earthly father or mother EVER could! My goodness, He even thought of creating YOU! Then He thought of how you will die in your sin and He sent us His Son Jesus Christ to die in our place and to give us eternal life! How about showing some gratitude. He is your heavenly FATHER. :’( And remember, in the final battle of Armageddon….JESUS WINS! :D *o/* wooohooo!

        • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

          No god= no Devil.

          I have one question. Which Satan are you talking about. Let’s see how educated on your own Jewish religion you are.

    • J_watson2000

      HAHAHA, So many things wrong with that comment.  Religion is killing the people on earth, if God is real then he either doesn’t care about humans or he is absolutely incompetent at his job.  What you feel is the religious leaders trying to destroy humanity.  They are so consumed by the lies, hatred, prejudice, and greed that the bible condones and tolerates all the while they are all making sure the end does happen.  Religion will destroy this earth long before any man  made “God” will.

      • http://www.facebook.com/danielle.wells.1420 Danielle Wells

        It is the wickedness of man that is killin the people on earth not God..We try to blame God for everything..no people should blame the wickedness in thier heart.. It is also not GOds desire for anyone to perish….You are right about religious leaders though most of who don’t know the bible Gods ways or anything else..If you really read the bible everything is cause and effect…People don’t want to realize that God is a God of love but also of war and justice..I am glad that he protected his people for being under attack because they were different..If he didn’t protect them and they didn’t protect themselves through the wars Israel would have been destroyed long ago..The bible also doesnot condone or tolerate lies , hatred, predjudice or greed….You need to read the bible again and read with understanding..Anytime that you are seperated from God you are in hell which means that you don’t have to be frying in a big furnace either..It is a fool who says in thier heart that there is no God..Much love to you…

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.goodwin.1614 Robert Goodwin

          Okay, just to point something out… Israel was destroyed… multiple times in fact. The only reason it exists today is because the US decided to reinstate it as a separate country about 50 years ago. God didn’t protect it… and as to evil here is a nice little bible verse for you…

          Isaiah 45:7
          “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

          The bible you claim to understand says that these were god’s words… So if god made evil, then doesn’t that make him responsible for it?

        • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

          Your mother is a fool! And so are you. Am I rude? Good because that is about how rude we find you Xians every time you use that fool line. Expect to be disrespected if you start by disrespecting people.

          Now. I perhaps thought I knew god. And what I mean by that is as a believer, would have claimed absolute knowledge that my feelings/emotions where god based. Then I woke up.

          Your view on the biblical god is skewed. Your whole post is illogical.

          1. If he loved everyone, then why the whole test thing. It’s not needed. We stared in a state that we are going to return to at the end of the world. God already knows who’s worthy and who is not from the very beginning.

          2. Do you even read the bible?
          http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

          Seems there is a lot of greed, murder, rape, prejudice, etc. Even Jesus was prejudice against Gentiles, Samarians, etc..

          I suggest you actually educate yourself before you post. Go away.

    • QuantumCat

      Magic? You mean it has nothing to do with science? I’m sorry, but believing in a god who exists out of evidence is pure idiocy. I don’t hate Christians. I hate religion. Religion is used where science has not found consistent evidence. Your god is the most unbelievable god I have ever read about. He is love yet bring eternal torture to all who reject the unlikely idea of an all-knowing, all-powerful, benevolent deity who is giant contradiction. Atheism is on the rise and I’m glad I’m able to see this. My afterlife will be like before my birth. I will be nothing. After I noticed this I decided to live my life as I see fit.

    • Galen Olson

      Holy effing crap! You are mentally deranged! If you actually believe that tripe then you should seek professional help fast!

    • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

      Lmao. So creating everything from nothing is not magic? lmao.

      How can he send an immortal being to die? And infinite being dying. Lol. what a joke.

      He loves each and everyone of us, yet he does nothing to protect us. Worse in the past he has ordered the death of millions to satisfy his blood lust. Killing women, children, unborn babies etc.

  • Kevin Rock

    Lol I also go to a private, Catholic high school. I’m pretty much the only outspoken, loudmouth atheist there. However, I’ve met at least 3 other atheists in that school but are very quiet about it. I’ve managed to make 2 students younger than me agnostic and I hope they convert someday. In my school, people don’t really hate me for being atheist, they’re just really shocked, seeing as they’ve never met one. Fortunately, the only reason I still haven’t gotten beat up is because the school really, really enforces the “love thy neighbor as thyself” commandment, meaning if any bullying goes on, the person is immediately expelled. However, I do get threatened every once in a while. It’s all good, arguing with the religious teachers and radicals.

    • Madi0998

      Why would you try to convert some one to be athiest?

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.goodwin.1614 Robert Goodwin

        It’s not so much converting them to be an atheist so much as getting them to think about their beliefs in a rational manner.

      • Artor

        Because you don’t want your friends to be trapped by irrational fears? Because you’re tired of them telling you about God’s plans for you? Why would you want to convert someone to Xtianity?

  • Tokethebowl

    Very well said ! As an Atheist myself, that was once a reborn again Christian, nothing makes a believer a skeptic faster than reading the rubbish contained in the bible. TOO many believers only read what they are told to read, but I took the time to read it all….Only a complete uneducated moron could do it and think it’s real when they are done.

  • ____

    You wrote you did read the whole Bible.
    What worth is that, if you used it for hate-spreading?
    You did miss the main point spoken by Lord Jesus Christ, the two greatest commandments:

    “..Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    (Matthew 22:34-40)

    May God then enlighten your heart, soul and mind to receive this and believe in his son Jesus Christ and have eternal life.

    • Nick

      You must’ve missed the point. She said it was full of bullshit and that’s her stand on the matter. If you’re willing to prove her wrong and THEN preach more bullshit, have at it. Until then, good luck.

      While you’re at it, explain every single inconsistency that these people have found in the “absolute word of God”.
      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cesar-Cariño-Jr/100000077601077 Cesar Cariño Jr.

      Question: How could I possibly love something I cannot see? If you really want us to love your god, then show us your god, make him appear FLESH and BLOOD.

      If he does not appear, it’s either he is hiding. He does not want to be loved.
      He maybe is not capable of appearing to us. He is then not omnipotent. Or maybe, he just doesn’t exist.

      I bet the last option answers this.

      • Madi0998

        Air doesn’t appear etheir. So maybe it is just hiding from our lungs.

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.goodwin.1614 Robert Goodwin

          Seriously? Air appears just fine… ever made some CO2 by mixing baking soda and vinegar… then dumped it into a paper bag attached to a scale with an empty paper bag on the other end… Proof that just because you can’t see carbon dioxide doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and has a measurable weight. The idea of god on the other hand is untestable and unverifiable because it is just that… an idea, no more, no less… just an idea made up by men.

      • Truth

        The same as you can believe in your brain, the same faith that you put in your car that it will not explode when you put the key in the ignition. Or do you check the schematics of everything you buy?

        It is important that we have faith so as to show our sincerity. If God were to appear, how sincere could you be then in your actions. You would act out of mere love for ones self and not God.

        That is why this is important.

  • dave

    You go girl!
    I waa raised in similar conditions. Nobody at my christian school could explain the contradictions in the bible to me.
    I came to athiesm by the way f aith. Just like Santa Clause – I wanted it to be true, but in the end I found reality.

    Once people believed from cradle to grave that the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around us. But what you believe is meaningless, underlying your beliefs is REALITY, and the reality isn’t the Sun revolving around the Earth.Religion is the same, belief mens nothing, there is only REALITY which so far shows no proofs of supreme beings.

    The best book to shake people of their faith, it the book their fath is based on.

    • http://www.facebook.com/danielle.wells.1420 Danielle Wells

      The bible doesn’t contradict itself..when you read the bible it is important to understand the time the place..who the text is talking to and must importantly the why..sometimes God dealt with different people in different ways….my reading the bible drew me closer to truth and I also found out thet most people who call themselves knowing what the bible says don’t have a clue..which is the reason some people turn away from God…so sad..

      • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

        @Danielle.. LMAO. the bible doesn’t contridict itself. Ever read Luke vs Peter or Matthew??

  • Katy

    What does it matter that you’ve read the Bible from cover to cover? You clearly haven’t considered the deeper meaning behind the words. You’re criticizing the above Bible passage, saying that it’s implying immoral things, but it sounds like you never actually went to the effort to ask what the words really mean. For Christians, the Bible is not a book you just “glaze over.” It’s not about memorizing obscure verses or knowing facts; this is the book by which we live our lives. We use this book as a guide so that we can live as Jesus did. Inevitably, some people will twist the meanings of words in the Bible to justify horrible things, but the book itself is NOT evil. People could misinterpret any piece of literature, after all.

    I’m a 16-year-old Catholic girl, and I attend an all-girls Catholic high school. Yes, I spent 6 years in public school, so I’m more than used to diversity. I have friends who are Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness, Wiccan, Agnostic, and Atheist. I’m not a judgmental person and I’m certainly not here to try to “change your minds,” but I do have a problem with people accusing Christianity of all kinds of evils without actually knowing what the religion essentially is.

    Though you’ll see radical and violent people who call themselves Christians, Christianity is about CHRIST. Now, no matter what your religion, I trust that you know about the teachings of Jesus Christ. My Atheist friends, who will rant incessantly about the evils of Christianity, all agree that Jesus, whether He is God or not, was an incredible teacher.

    I’m asking you to put your prejudices aside and to think only of the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. You won’t believe that He cured the lepers, raised the dead, walked on water, or died on the cross and rose again to save the world, but can you criticize even one of His moral teachings? He spoke to crowds of thousands about forgiveness, love, and peace. He taught not only about religion but about common human decency. This man was loving and joyful and wise. Gandhi said, “I like your Christ; I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    So, I’m sorry about my spiel, but my point is that we Christians do not exist to start wars, persecute nonbelievers, and preach messages of doom and damnation. We are called to live as Christ did, but unfortunately, we are not perfect like our Master. Still, there are many wonderful Christians who live lives of charity and love to glorify God. Mother Teresa of Calcutta, anyone? I hate to live in a world where believers and nonbelievers are at constant opposition. I, like many Christians, want to see peace, and the atheist v. theist wars aren’t helping that cause.

    Thank you, and God bless.

    • http://www.facebook.com/samuelnstevens Sam Stevens

      Whether or not Jesus taught good things is quite unrelated to the question of the veracity of the Bible.  Buddha was a good teacher; that does not make me a Buddhist.  The question isn’t “has Christianity done good things?”  The question is rather, “has evil been done simply because of Christianity?”  The answer is yes.  Christianity clouds your mind and forces you into a perspective that degrades your ability to think critically and to analyze.  It also has been the founding principle of many wars–Even Hitler was a Catholic and never renounced his faith.  He even spoke of the Jews as “Christ killers.”  Look at the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials.  Look also at the closing of the schools of Philosophy by Julianus that led to the Dark Ages–this was done because he felt that philosophy led to skepticism which led to atheism.  He was a Christian, in case you were wondering.  If it were not for the dark ages, Columbus could have been landing on the moon.

      The other, and possibly most important, question is “Is Christianity the one true religion?”  Truth is essential to any real human life.  Without truth, life is meaningless.  The veracity of the bible then, is the ultimate question in regards to Christianity.  However, the Bible is extremely inaccurate, both in a historical and scientific sense.  I’m not going to pile on inaccuracy after inaccuracy for you.  If you have a single rational thought in your mind, then do the research yourself.  

      The Bible also contradicts itself in so many cases.  Again, I’m not going to pile the contradictions for you.  The information is out there.  I found it, you can find it too.

      I have been a Christian, an atheist, a deist, an “i-dont-know-what,” and even flirted with Buddhism and I find myself back in atheism once again because it is the only tenable position. Many Christians I have taught to use the same argument as you: “Christianity isn’t SUPPOSED to do evil, they just misuse it.”  This argument, however is fallacious.  A kitchen knife may be made to cut vegetables, but it can be utilized to slaughter an entire family.  What something SHOULD be is immaterial to what something actually is.  If you use the knife to cut vegetables, it’s a kitchen knife.  If you use it to slaughter a family, it’s a murder weapon.  Christianity is a murder weapon, not a kitchen knife.  It has not done what it was supposed to do, and should be bagged up and locked in the evidence locker.  Nearly every other religion should also follow suit.  What something actually is changes the definition of the thing.  While “gay” was supposed to mean happy, it now means homosexual.  Just because it was supposed to mean happy doesn’t mean that if I call someone gay, it means they’re happy by today’s standards.  Christianity has also wandered far away from what the teacher taught.  As Nietzsche said, “The first and last Christian died on the cross; everything after has been a perversion of what the teacher taught.” 

      It doesn’t work.  It is unverified.  The bible itself makes inaccurate claims; therefore there is no reason to believe that ANY of the claims it makes is true.  If it is wrong about one thing, it could be wrong about many.  If I published a scientific journal on water, and said water was HO2, you probably would laugh and stop reading because most likely, I was wrong about everything else.  Same with the bible.  When it says there is water over the sky and the reason it rains is because windows in the sky open up, I have to throw the book down and walk away laughing. 

      • Guest

        I just want to know how you know the bible is”inaccurate”? You weren’t even there and no one on this earth was . And scientist are pretty smart but a couple of them also said the world was supposed to end last year, and to my knowledge were still here. I will praying for you. God bless! 
         

        • Matt

          Just so you know, I have never heard of scientists predicting the “end of the world”.  I have heard of predictions of asteroid impacts, and climate change.  Those who predict the end of the world are almost always religious folk.  Take Harold Camping for example.  

          If you epistemic criteria is pure empiricism then you must have allot of trouble with history textbooks.  Most people pretend empiricism to win debates, but few actually act as if it is true.  

        • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

          I just want to know how you know the bible is “accurate” you weren’t even there and no one on this earth was. There have been people (including jesus) who said the world was going to end soon. To my knowledge we’re still here? I will hope you shake off the chains of ignorance and superstition.

          • ♥Amanda♥

            “with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” <–(Says so in 2 Peter 3:8) So when Jesus says His return is "soon, even at the doors!" I reckon 2000 yrs=2 days is soon in His eyes! ;D The Bible talks about you too! "scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming?" <–that's in 2 Peter too! :D Maranatha! Come Lord Jesus come and please have mercy on these lost souls!

            • http://www.williebrownblues.com Uwe Bartsch

              I would really appreciate it if you would not be so condescending and patronizing and call some folk “lost souls” because I don’t call you a “mad drooling idiot” because you believe in fairytales. Thanks and if you’re really nice to me, I might have mercy on your soul!

            • http://twitter.com/Agoraks Sav Bard

              That’s what Peter says…

            • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

              Niice. Keep your Paulistic faith to yourself. Should be called Christianity. It should be called, Jewish Paulism. LMAO.

        • http://www.williebrownblues.com Uwe Bartsch

          Well I could answer this one if I may… This might be a little tough for some of you folk to swallow and digest, but nobody has actually ever read the whole bible, because it has been edited over so many thousand times over the centuries, and it was originally translated from the ancient aramaeic language which nobody today speaks, to greek, so it is fair to say that the bible as you or we know it is by definition “inaccurate”!

      • Truth

        A claim is not a cause. If a sociopath murders in the name of democracy all that has been proven is that je is a sociopathic murderer.

        Logic = invalid

    • J_watson2000

      Katy, you say you are Catholic, have you any idea of the crimes against humanity that your precious church have committed?  Study the Inquisition and see how many people, men, women and children were murdered in the name of “God”.  ”He spoke to crowds of thousands about forgiveness, love and peace.”  I suggest you really read about forgiveness and love in the “Bible”.  Ordering Abraham to sacrifice his son, ordering Moses to murder over 3000 as soon as God gives him the 10 commandment.  ”God” gave us free will but punishes us for using it.  Not much of a gift.  He sacrificed his son which was actually himself, He was “dead” for 3 days and returned.  Not much of a sacrifice. Majority of Christianity is stolen from ancient religions and beliefs, The virginal birth is same in at least 10 other religions.  There are so many contradictions in the bible that it makes itself unbelievable.  I will say that as a 16 year old that your article is well written and a very respectable reply to Cassie’s article.  All i ask is that you really read the bible and understand all the falsehoods that are there.  There is no proof that god exists just as there is no proof of Bigfoot, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny but people still believe in them.  Just because there is belief does not mean they are real.  Life is too precious to waste living your life just to be given a life in a heaven that will not be there for you.  Do what is moral, be good to yourself and others and you will be happy.  We as human beings know what is right and wrong without having it written, whether we choose to live that way or not is up to us.  Please keep writing, it is nice to see young people that write like you and have something to say.  

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Rowsey/100002574824726 Jason Rowsey

        pro tip much larger atrocities have been done in the name of atheism than catholic religion.   Stalin killed over 40 million of his own people and you could also make the argument that Hitler acted with very atheist beliefs.  To deny that a theme of love is not a core belief in the new testament, which was what her post focused on, is kinda of ignorant.

        • rafrey

          It’s true that Stalin killed many people and was a terrible person, but he did not commit atrocities in the name of atheism or because of atheism, he just happened to be an asshole with power. However, when a religious person commits atrocities, it is almost always FOR their religion, or in the name of their religion. Atheism has no such link. Also Hitler was a Roman Catholic, This is a fact.

          • Comments

            While everyone is arguing over whether a Christian is worse than an Atheist, or vice versa, you’re all missing the point that Christians and Atheists should both be combatting their – the world’s common enemy: Muslims. They plagiarized the Old and New testaments and then insulted and threatened the same people they robbed ideas from in their own totally non-original ultra violent book that has been used to kill more people than any other religion combined. There are more Muslim terrorists attacks each day than there are times you visit the bathroom. Christians have reformed their religion a lot. Hardcore Christians still exist, but even the most hardcore Christians are harmless compared to the helplessly devout soldiers of Mohammed who stone their wives to death, rape pre-teen girls all over Europe, and kill all non-believers, all throughout the western world.

      • ♥Amanda♥

        God was testing Abraham’s faith in Him! God gives us free will, but if you choose to use your free will to do evil or even be a good person, but shun your Creator, not believe in Him who made you with His own hands, do you expect Him to bless you and pat you on the head for that?! No! Our decisions here on earth have consequences, even unto eternity! But you know what, God is good, He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. You can’t ignore Him forever, one day you are going to stand before His judgment seat. For He is loving and good, but He is also righteous and just. When people think He is being unjust, it’s because they don’t see the bigger picture! God’s ways are not, our ways, and His thoughts are not our thoughts.

        • JF

          Because that’s what loving gods do, right? They torment their subjects. Ordering a father to kill his son, mental torture for both, is a heinous, sadistic act betraying his jealousy and insecurity, even if he ends with with “Ha ha, you know what Abe? You don’t really have to slit his throat, I was just testing!”.

        • Artor

          Why does God need to test anyone if he’s all-knowing? Why is he so awful to Job, when he knows from the start how Job will react? Why does he have to harden Pharaoh’s heart as an excuse to smite Egypt with plagues? (plagues that appear nowhere in the actual historical record. You’d think somebody would notice things like that)
          My conclusion is that your Bible is just a book of made-up stories, and your god is a bundle of contradictions and horrible bronze-age superstitions.

    • Daniell

      You go on about how good jesus’ teachings are even though he doesnt exist. A fictional character can be a good person but that doesnt mean that it is real

      • ♥Amanda♥

        Dear Daniell, just because YOU say He is a fictional character and does not exist, does not make that true. :) May God bless you and may He remove your spiritual blindness.

        • Artor

          Historical proof would indicate that he existed, but there isn’t any. Just because YOU say he exists doesn’t make it true.

        • QuantumCat

          You only believe his real, because you were indoctrinated. The only blurry evidence of Jesus is a book from the iron age. The cosmos is so magnicent that I really don’t need a god who wants to send me to hell to enjoy me life. I have faith in humanity. I do not put my faith in something as significant as religion. I aspire to become a physicist and advance science. I believe in logic now and I now feel more in control and one with the cosmos.

        • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

          Dear Amanda, just because YOU say he is a real character and does exist, does not make that true. :)
          May the FSM bring you into his noodley embrace and hold you close to his meaty balls. RA-men!

      • GADHOUSER

        Nice try but tell me something did you ever hear of anyone against the wicked witch in OZ? No of course not. Because she is fictional, so if GOD is fictional then why must Atheist stand up and state a fictional GOD does not exist? Ah, because he does and those without Christ as their savior will die in their sins and go directly to HELL when they die.
        Proof GOD exists:
        1. Ark at Mt Ararat
        2. Israel as a nation
        3. Prophecies in the King James Bible which have come to pass. (READ IT)
        4. The Jewish historians have stated that JESUS did indeed exist.
        5. People cuss they say GODs name in vain, why because he exists. (try saying Buddah Dam, Allah dam, or OZ dam and watch the crazy stares.)
        6. If GOD does not exist, just once pray and ask GOD to send Satan to teach you a lesson. (have fun)
        GOD BLESS

    • http://twitter.com/Agoraks Sav Bard

      Well I guess how do you know that Lord of the Ring book is not accurate, hum ? and you should not also just read Lord of Rings you should consider the deeper meaning of the words. Gandalf did many miracles and was incredible teacher. And besides you Christians are responsible for the greatest evils on this planet..

    • StOoPiD_MoNkEy

      A few things wrong with your post.

      1. Jesus was NOT an incredible teacher. Actually he taught was exactly in the Jewish Torah. Not only that, but most of what he said wasn’t new to other societies in the world. Jesus was NOT unique.

      2. Not understanding the bible. Okay, as yourself this, then ask your priest this.

      In what context is it ever okay to kill unborn babies, children and women?

      Does gods might make right? If you agree with biblical interpretation then you are an immoral person per societies standards.

  • http://www.thewarfareismental.net/b Thewarfareismental

    ”
    The reason we cannot even legally drink until we 21 is because children’s brains are not even totally developed until they are 21. ”

    So all your reasons for being an atheist come from an underdeveloped brain? 

    • J_watson2000

      if you read the whole article you will learn why she is an atheist.  You take one sentence and conclude that is her entire reason?  Sounds like a Christian response to me.

      • guest

        It says “all your reasons” not your reason. Sounds like an undeveloped brain to me!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gphua1 Gary Phua

    Oh dear the “even though you’ve read the whole thing you are clearly missing the point/ taking things out of context” defense.

    Let me put it to you miss. Surely if this was the word of the one true omnipotent and omniscient God it would be simply impossible to read it out of context because He would have created it so.

    If God is not powerful enough to do even this where imperfect beings like us are able to do so ie: ikea instruction manuals, warranty clauses, insurance clauses, malpractice insurance exact coverage etc

    You could say that the authors are human and tend to err so the translation or the original meaning is lost so we atheist are able to viciously attack it as it lay helpless to unwarranted criticism. Alright then what ELSE would they have mistranslated/misrepresented? 

    Wait hold on wasn’t the bible the words of God ? So the very fact that He allows it to be translated such means he approves right? So the fact that on the first read we couldn’t understand as the way you want us to it is the Author’s fault no?

    Or was it the veil of our sins covering our eyes and clouding our understanding? Ok then Omnipotent God in heaven would have known this and if He was truly interested in saving us from the fiery pit then won’t He have made sure the bible could never be taken out of context or misunderstood?

    Too hard to accept? Shaking your head ?

    Well think how about a parable then? 

    Suppose a doctor was angry at two persons who took some of his papers, read them and became wiser despite explicit and dire warnings not to do so. He proceeds to infect them with a horrific disease of which there only he has the cure. Such a disease will at one’s point of death cause one to experience pain similar to being burnt alive while hemorrhaging from every orifice imaginable. The person survives for another 10 days after frank symptoms undergoing this agony. To make matters worst, the disease releases chemicals which heightens the infected’s awareness and thus every second feels like a 100 years. In short a horrible way to die. This particular disease he tells them is also 100% hereditary and all their children would be infected too. Suffering the same fate till their eventual death. Now after a while the descendants of the afflicted pair number a large village. The suffering is great but life had to go on. The doctor, for reasons known only to himself chooses a particular family and told them that they could be cured if only they followed his instructions to the letter.  The doctor sent emissaries with detailed instructions to this family. Only through a life time of following these instructions will you be rid yourself of the disease the doctor tells them. However the instructions given were too arbitrary and were impossible to follow and serve only to illustrate how inadequate the infected are in fulfilling the conditions set forth. The doctor himself knows this as he himself had set such instructions. Time passes and very few were able to rid themselves of this plague. The village has now grown into a city. Countless millions have died to this plague. Though it was in his power all the time this doctor does not release the cure.  The doctor now visits this city. His heart fills with compassion at the amount of suffering and resolves to make sure everyone is cured. He appears and speaks out in public podiums that he has the cure and is willing to give it to everyone and anyone.  There’s but a few conditions . They must each acknowledge firstly that they truly deserved this disease and were in the wrong for transgressions against the doctor. Not living according to the impossible instruction set counts as transgressions too because its turning away from the wisdom of the doctor. They must also acknowledge that no other doctor is capable or powerful enough to rival this doctor and in fact this doctor was the only one around. They must seek also to live their lives according to what would make the doctor pleased that they might in turn be rewarded. To these who swear fealty he would bestow the cure. This doctor expects the people to be glad that he is compassionate and spread the news. He also expects that the population would be so grateful that it becomes natural to want to praise his great medical skills and kind heart. To revere him and make him the central focus of their lives. Of course to those who choose to not do so don’t get cured.This is why some atheists hold the bible in such contempt. If you cannot see the parallel I suggest YOU read the bible. I believe in the goodness of most Christians and what they preach then in the biblical God who is not worthy of its followers. 

     

  • roofy

    how hard were pharoahs dreams to interpret . flooding of nile , crops growing bcoz of that was well known . what was so hard that the best wise men could not see that . hint cows coming out of the nile river.

    • Truth

      Ever watched a video with white noise that had subtitles on it showing what, it is supposed to sound like?

      Then that becomes what you hear.

      Thus said, it is easy to comment after seeing the outcome.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ephah.englin Ephah Josephine Englin

    Sweetie, you’re an inspiration.  Like you I read the bible cover to cover and like you I could not find a single thing in it to convince me that it was true.  I was raised in the church 24/7/365 and even with all the indoctrination and finger-pointing I still walked away shaking my head at the overwhelming nonsense.  So you go girl and don’t let anyone tell you that you are wrong without some hardcore evidence to back them up.

  • Truth

    Atheists don’t understand the Bible just like the KKK and Nazi’s.  Generously, 15% of America that is atheist think they are the ones that got it right, whereas 75% of the county that is Christian do not agree. Sorry atheists, you are still the minority. On the bright side, the recent growth in atheists/decline in church attendance correlates with the decline of the economy so you can moan about that too. Don’t worry though,  when you die nothing happens ergo your life is meaningless. Understanding comes from God and glancing over the Bible or reading it and applying your own human understanding will not get you anywhere. SUP… Shut Up & Pray

    • Matt

      Finally, a Christian who will admit that “glancing over the Bible or reading it and applying your own human understanding will not get you anywhere”.  It is better understood as literature than as a guidebook for life.  

      As for understanding coming from God, how do you know the voices in your head are God?  Where does your concept of God come from, if not from scripture?  If you maintain that God revealed himself to you as God through personal revelation then you just sound, …well… crazy.    

  • Julian Szlufcik

    Maybe you do not know but at the time, the environment was very hostile and children were as adults as true adults. If God did, it was to protect his prophets and his people.

    God is often accused of being violent, but there were people who made human sacrifices, we do not react the same way by trying to destroy these people? I think so.Before judging the Bible, then read and understand the meaning, young girl.

  • Todd Arrant

    Many read the WORD,but in order to understand the WORD you must do what it tells you to do…Most peoples problem is that they are readers but not does of the WORD,and the WORD tells us to be doers of the WORD of GOD…A true Christian life is one of surrender,and obedience.When man put his two sense in it corrupts the WORD of GOD…Thats is why we see people not living their lives truly for the LORD…Repentance is the key,to walk in it daily…

  • RationalThinker

    “2.Evidence is evidence. The bible counts. After all we don’t make you prove that you have to air to breathe.”

    What? What does that mean? You have to air to breathe? You mean “need air to breathe?” Because there is proof that air exists and that we breath it. The air of Earth consists of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, 1% Argon, and small amount of many other gases. These gases exist. They can be detected. Identified. Isolated. Analyzed. It is a known fact that we need oxygen to live. That is why we breathe air.

    Evidence is studying and gathering facts through observation in order to support or reject a hypothesis. Sorry but the Bible does not count.(can’t believe you didnt cap Bible, you sure you are Christian, or was that Satan causing a mistype?). A book is not evidence. A book can contain evidence. And the Bible does not do that. All the Bible does it state random things about creation, gigantic floods whose water has mysteriously vanished, and a giant cyclops whose skull was most likely a wooly mammoths that was discovered by ignorant people who killed people for saying the earth was not the center of the world even with this so called evidence. The Bible does not explain why and how. Just says:
    “In the beginning God created the heavens and
    the earth. 2 Now
    the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of
    the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.”

    Why? How? Proof?

    Also, there is already a false statement. Science has proven it with evidence through the gathering of information and analyzing it with rational thoughts. The water on earth has not been here since the Earth was formed. Actually, there was no water on Earth. All the water on Earth has come from comets and other foreign objects penetrating our atmosphere over billions of years. And of course….the sun was formed ,03 billion years before the earth. So there actually was light, not darkness. But the people who wrote this Bible didn’t know that. There was no way for anyone at that time to know that. So of course there was no one to say hey, wait, uh, you are wrong because: “states evidence”. Of course he would have been killed but that will be a regular occurence over the next 2000 years so no big deal. What? He has no faith in this God? He thinks rationally? He has that Satan in him. Kill it with fire!

    So sorry you are wrong. Evidence is not evidence. I hope your irrational thought process and blind believing with no evidence brain can actually read this, analyze it, and come up with a rational response. But I am sure that it will be: ” I don’t need evidence or proof. I have faith.”

    Arguing with religious people(actual pictures of brain similar to that of brain with mental illness. Yes. There is evidence.) is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon with shit on the board and strut around like its victorious.

  • Guest

    Stop this right now. We Christians do not believe in magic. Because God is not magic. And God is magic. I have read the Bible Forwards and Backwards and there are many historical events that took place after Jesus went back to heaven. Like the fall of Troy that was predicted in the Bible. We are trying to show where you are wrong. I’m not saying that we are. sometimes we are no better than you. But we are trying to be and trying to help you all. To me this is just sad. I can’t believe that after all this evidence you still don’t believe. But in 2nd Thessalonians 3:11 all of you will believe in a delusion a lie. I really hope you all come to your sense before you die. I’m praying for you all. And Bald man does not mean that they are bald it was an insult back in the Biblical times. Guess what i’m only a seventh grader. Yet I know all this. I may not know it all but you know what they say “Knowledge is power. Which can only come from God.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.goodwin.1614 Robert Goodwin

      Knowledge comes from testing observable phenomena… not from god, the bible, or any other religious text. Please show one verifiable occurrence where you gained knowledge from god without having to study something yourself… if you can’t do this then your argument is invalid. Also by knowledge I mean something I could corroborate by testing the idea myself… not some personal feeling that is only felt by you.

      • Truth

        That is most certainly true. However, fact is distinct and separate from knowledge. Since knowledge can expand and change and then some day you will find that the earth is no longer flat.

        Knowledge is merely what is known, not what is.

  • Devon

    Hi. I browsed over a bit of what was said in the comments. I would just like to say that everyone is entitled to their belief and no post on a website is going to change anybody’s opinion, so all of the hate that is being directed towards people who have stated their opinions is quite ridiculous and silly.

    UHM ANYWAY I’m a Christian, I have been for a year. Started off agnostic in life because I knew that everything could not have just come from nothing. There had to be some kind of influential force. Maybe something existing in a different dimension. That would explain ghosts. They’re just things existing in a different dimension. That was my belief until a little over a year ago, lol.

    But then I became depressed! Suicidal thoughts, attempts at cutting myself, running away, going to bed crying, etc, etc, and even though I knew life was amazing, I was never happy. Later on, a domino effect occurred where I used a friend to hang out with people I thought were cool at churchy things. So I ended up participating in stuff like that. One day I started actually listening to what was being said. I began to worship and pour my heart out, and it was like all of a sudden I understood that God is there, and has always been there, blessing me day after day.

    Soon after, I defeated my depression. I stopped drinking and smoking weed and got on the right track in life! Heck, it wasn’t easy, but it’s not supposed to be easy or everybody would already be doing it, lol.

    Anyway, the reason I’m posting here today is because I feel like there is too much hate in these comments. Everybody just needs to love everybody. There’s terrible people that claim to be Christian, and there’s also terrible people who claim to be atheist, or Muslim, or Jewish, etc etc. There is bound to be those kinds of people in any group, it’s just the way things are.

    To the people who are taking the bible literally, here’s my opinion: the Old Testament is more of a storybook where you should pay more attention to the morals they are trying to tell than anything. The Bible is considered the Holy Book, according to Christians, but it has been translated so many times and passed through so many hands that it’s hard to really know. I would love to say that it’s all true, but frankly, I just can’t. Even though I’m a Christian, I’m also a firm believer in science, and that God gave us science to understand the world He gave for us, and there are too many conflicting things that, to me, seems like “That seems a little too extreme for me…” The Earth being created in 6 days? Highly unlikely, especially because there were no days before the Earth, and the Earth’s day is continuously, although slowly, getting longer. An entire world flooded in 40 days and 40 nights? Wouldn’t it be more likely that just the area Noah lived flooded, and that he saved the animals in that area, but some translation or something caused the text to say the world flooded instead of the world as Noah knew it? I believe that was some sort of translational error that occurred. Or something like that.

    I like to believe that the New Testament is the most reliable and true textual reference we should look at, if we are arguing about Christianity. There has been over 2000 years for there to be translation errors, but that is substantially less than the thousands upon thousands of years that the old testament has been through. Yes, there is probably some extreme and exaggerated accounts in the New Testament, but I don’t believe there are as many.

    Yes, yes, the Bible is supposed to be the Holy Text. If it was God’s will for us to read it, then it would remain the same and not have changed when passed from hand to hand like a thousand year long telephone game.

    God also intended for the world to be paradise and lack any dilemmas or conflicts. But then sin entered the world through the enticement by the evil snake (who may or may not have been Satan, I’m really not sure right now). Sin is powerful, and as humans, we have a tendency to sin because the knowledge of good and evil entered our lives, presenting us with choices each and every day. Instead of being aware of only the good choice, we are also aware of the bad choice (and the moderate choices, for nothing is ever black and white). And each time we need to make a choice, there is Satan, using the fact we also have the knowledge of evil, whispering into our minds, trying to tempt us to do the wrong things that will ultimately lead us to the poorer decision, although we are fully aware of what the consequences may be.

    Hi. Still with me? Hopefully I’m not upsetting anybody with what I’m saying. xD I’m kinda being Devi’s Advocate against both sides. Lol, see what I did there? Since we are talking about Christianity?

    OKAY SO, one thing, one very simple thing has bothered me since become a Christian, more than anything else in this crazy religion that I love. Why the heck can people only get into heaven through Jesus? I know he’s awesome and all, but before Jesus, how did people get in? Did they just believe in God? It was so confusing for me. But then I realized one day when I had an epiphany.

    The bible say in John 14:6, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    In several other verses, it hints that Jesus is God. John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.”

    And then there is a verse, and probably more, saying that God is, in fact, love. 1 John 4:16 “And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.”

    After seeing all of these connections come into place, I feel as though as long as you believe in love, and act in it, you can be saved and go to heaven. And you really have to believe in it, and not just man and woman kind of love. It has to be ALL kinds of love, people. Because the greatest commandment still is what should always be obeyed.

    Matthew 22:37-4037 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    So, love love, live to love, love your neighbor as yourself (and your neighbor is anyone who also loves his neighbor, and so on and so forth. I don’t really wanna get too into it.) and you will be all set! Love the world and the many blessings that are in your life.

    But wait! There’s more!

    I just wanted to say that, ever since I became a Christian, everything has just made more sense. I never believed in coincidences, and now things line up in ways that just work. And the many miracles that happen and people talk about or the miracles that get documented make sense too. And the numerous reportings of ghosts and angels and possessions and stuff make sense too.

    OH and one last thing!

    When asked, “Is it wrong to kill someone?”, most people will answer “Yes!”

    That has to be proof that something, even if you don’t want to admit that it’s God, plays a role in our souls and spirits! Yes, you could argue that it is an instinctual trait among our species because killing is automatically thought up as detrimental to our species survival capabilities…

    BUT how many people are against the death penalty? And how many people are against killing off, or letting die, the people that would be detrimental to our population, who, if we lived completely by the instinct of species survival, if left alive? The people with harmful genes, the people who can’t survive on their own, the old people who need assistance to live. If we lived completely by nature, we would not be so against the death of even the most detrimental members of our species.

    Now that just doesn’t make sense.

    NO ONE here is a moron. Unless you are hating on someone because of your close-minded brains that won’t accept other people’s beliefs. I LOVE EVERYBODY, and while I believe Christianity done right is the best way to live a life to its fullest and most rewarding way possible, anyone who loves knows God and knows Jesus, in my opinion. Anyone willing (the key word is willing) to love their neighbor and live a life where others will always come first has a place in heaven, if you ask me.

    If I wanted to be totally honest, I would prefer it if atheists believed in SOMETHING with ideals and morals. Doesn’t matter what. There’s just too many unexplained things in the world for you to believe in nothing! Ghosts, angels, miracles, LOVE, etc, etc. Just too much, lol.

    Uhm, so yeah, have a good evening to you all! God bless you, and please please please stay classy.

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  • pancakes183

    Even Satan knows the Bible from cover to cover. There is a difference between the word “read” and “study.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/brave.athiest Brave Athiest

    You are effing kidding right? Some of the responses on this board are SOOOO pitiful! THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE FOR GOD OR GODS-PERIOD!! Get thru your skull! You cannot prove something without proof, especially the Bronze-age myth of GAWD! If your Catholic then you might as well let it go! Your church has more pedophiles per capita than the typical prison!

  • http://www.facebook.com/brave.athiest Brave Athiest

    Catholics-Your Pope and his cardinals sit on high with a Vatican worth untold billions while millions of children starve! Good example coming from the followers of a poor carpenter!

  • Honesty

    Haha! You haven’t read the bible! You wouldn’t be an atheist if you truly had…

    • Jessie

      Retarded and unfounded statement. Read it many times. Even purchased the Skeptic’s Annotated Bible which shows all the lies, contradictions, misogynistic things that are in the bible, and much much more. Get over yourself and actually read with an open mind, not sucking on your make believe god’s dear old cock while reading the trash you call the bible. Stop making excuses for yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TRJTRY Ryan Tennyson

    I want to read that book she wrote

  • chuck from Az.

    Good for you.I find it impossible to read the bible and not be distressed that I share a country and planet with people who can rationalise that book into their lives.It is a difficult read and as ridiculous as can be.To be told you have to inteprit it yet accept it is irrational.The deeper meaning????? well what about THE meaning as at no point does it say okay these bits are weird but think about them untill you can create a message from them that is unfalsifiable.I love being told to prove god does not exist.Well look around this is how the world looks without any gods exising.Good luck and P.S. at some point just vote .That is your only recourse.Arguing or trying to cure someone of their delusion is not worth it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DaveTheTramp Dave A Smitty

    WHERE CAN I FIND THIS atheist bible

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get your reason to see that the Bible contradicts itself. You referenced 2 Kings 2:23-24. Did you even bother to realize what those youths were doing? They were mocking God’s prophet. You see it’s just like going up to an older person and making fun of them. It’s not God’s fault that they died. Have you ever heard of an adult fully developed coming out of the womb? We have morals built into us and we have parents that teach us these morals, like it’s wrong to lie, steal, and kill. Jesus said in John 20:29, “Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

  • Satan

    Drinking age has nothing to do with brain development. The brain isn’t completely developed. If you are 15, you have 10 years to go. When your brain is developed, read the bible again.

  • facebook Robert Roop 14

    Ok so she read the bible, big deal. Got news for some of ya…..the bible isn’t for the world. In other words it isn’t for the unsaved.

  • facebook Robert Roop 14

    Also Catholics are not Christians and yes they killed a lot of Christians when the Catholics were under Jesuit popes….

  • Lamarice

    The statement is incorrect again coming from an underdeveloped brain of a fifteen year old girl that has estrogen problems and endorphin problems she’s scared to express to her parents out of do reality. Theologically people were in the era where God’s presence and principles were more instructed from parents….if back then God said the poor are mine, the fatherless, the motherless, and the foolish. Then common sense tells you that trying to give any affliction or attention of harm to these type of people( with offense like purposes) then there are consequences Psalms 105:5 Thou shall not touch thy anointed and do thy prophets no harm…..if you have your own intelligence as an athiest use yours. Don’t support a fifteen year olds words and in a contradicting manner she just stated she has an underdeveloped brain…..From Yours Truly A REAL CHILD OF GOD.

  • hasan al farisi.

    it’s great youre an atheist. but why are you not in the public schools??eXtremely hypocritical to be an atheisit in a xtian school. Does it make you feel different or special to be an atheist in a xtian school?? You really should be in the public school system, supporting it rather than paying tuition to the xtians.

  • Amy Lee

    I’m an atheist. I’m 23 and have been an atheist since I was self aware. I just started reading the bible for the first time.. not just reading but full on note taking, highlighting, calling people for explanations and researching. I am only on page twenty but I am fascinated. I’m even more fascinated as to how anybody buys into this as anything but fiction! Also, I thought a lot today about how almost no believer of God I have ever asked has actually read the bible, not just passages. I find that strange. I have decided to dabble in church just to see what it’s all about as I haven’t been since I was about twelve. I’ll tell you though, the more I’m learning about all of this the more my atheism has been backed up.

  • andriana constandinou

    Sweetheart I am a 29 year old mother of two. I have believed , in the past, that the Bible was not true. However, September 2012 the Lord transformed me, unblinded me from the deceitfulness of the lies of this world. I am a born again check the chapter in John 3.
    I also challenge you to speak to the Lord, its free . If you truly believe what you are saying seek him and ask. And if your afraid to do it ask yourself why, are you , maybe wrong? Perhaps you are and perhaps you are not. I know you are wrong the Lord Our maker is beautiful and real. I want you to go to heaven not hell. I want you to know what I know now.

    He made you as beautiful, dedicated, loving and smart as you are. I dont know who you are but the Lord does know more than anyone, he made you. I challenge you and email me. Trust me I was like you before and he through His grace loved me enough even though I am a sinner. That’s who he is. He loves you too. Paul Tarsus was persecuting Christians in the New Testament and the Lord transformed him and he became a Christian. How is that?

    I challenge you to ask him, like I said it’ s free and you will loose nothing if you just ask him. May the Lord Bless your soul. You are precious and don’t forget that.:)